Agenda:
1. Red 3 please have last groups finish their presenting. (10 minutes)
2. Red 3 & 4: Please answer questions for chapters 20-22. (you will need to scroll down the page) Pass in to Mr. Body. (20-30 minutes). If you finish early, please read.
3. You will be going to the library for a presentation and information on Banned Books.
4. Homework for next class: Read chapters 23-25.
Homework due for October 7th
1. Please read the article What is Justice for a Sixth Grader? Pick three points from the article that stand out to you and list them on this blog. Be sure to sign your name.
2. Read chapter 20-22.
1.) I thought it was interesting that in Maine there are no age limit to be tried as an adult.
ReplyDelete2.) The kids who caused the massacre were only in middle school.
3.) The kids were only sentenced to jail until they were 21 for killing multiple people.
Sam Woodward
-"It's time for the adults who own the guns to act responsibly, to store them safely and to take responsibility for the guns in their possession." This stood out to me because it is surprising how the parents would not be able to notice that their child had taken their fire arm.
ReplyDelete- Another point of the article that stood out to me was that two kids, 13 and 11, were guilty of killing five and injuring 10
-One last think that stood out was that there are 27 states in the U.S that do not have age restrictions on whether or not a juvenile could be tried as an adult.
-Trenton Johnson
1. I just find it terrible that young children are capable of murder.
ReplyDelete2. Twenty-seven states prosecute children as adults.
3. Many states punish the parents or make them take training programs on parenting.
Neeka Skelton
1.The first thing that stood out to me was that 11 and 13 year old kids killed people. I can't image why they would kill people.
ReplyDelete2.Parents can be held liable for there child's crimes. Sometimes it could be the parents fault but other times it might not be and then the parents would unjustly be going to jail.
3.I am very shocked that Louisiana has an age setting of 15. I understand the whole brain function thing but children should still be held accountable for their actions.
Cole Lemelin/R3
1. In many states, though, age is no barrier to punishment. Twenty-seven do not have age restrictions in prosecuting juveniles as adults.
ReplyDelete2. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures in Denver, 42 states have enacted laws making parents responsible in one form or another for their children's crimes.
3. "It's time for the adults who own the guns to act responsibly, to store them safely and to take responsibility for the guns in their possession."
Hannah Conway
After reading the article "What is Justice for a Sixth Grader" three things that stuck out to me were that one, they were only able to be kept until the turned 18, two, parents can be jailed and fined for their child's behavior and lastly, Arkansas found a way to hold them until their 21st birthdays because of weapon laws.
ReplyDeleteI furthered my research and with in the last 6 years, Johnson was released from jail but was standing trial for another weapons charge along with possession of drugs.
-Alexa Betters
The first thing that stood out to me that people wished this kids to get raped and beaten up. It amazes me at what hate people can have.
ReplyDeleteAnother thing was the fact that this kid was in sixth grade, and killed these people. I can't imagine what was going through his head to do this.
Th last thing that stood out was that people say this kid should be tried as an adult even though the law states that he can't be tried as an adult. You may think it has to be changed, but what if that was your kid? The law is the law and it was made for a reason.
Courtney Higgins Pelkey
*The fact that a child cannot be held past 21 is appalling to me.
ReplyDelete*Parents being held responsable for their child's actions is wrong unless they are to blame.
*An eye for an eye doesn't always work but being harsher is necessary.
Trenton LR
1.) Under state law, Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Golden, 11, will not face the death penalty. They will not spend the rest of their lives in prison. In fact, if convicted of killing five and injuring 10, they are likely be out of prison at age 18. . . .most children are released at age 18 because the state does not have the facilities to hold them longer.
ReplyDelete2.) The state's Parental Responsibility Act makes parents liable for inadequate supervision, with penalties of up to a year in jail and $2,500 fines.
3.) "It doesn't matter to me that these were boys," he says hesitantly. "Their age has nothing to do with the fact that they murdered my wife and four others. . . ." - Mitchell Wright
Jackman Mickiewicz
1.)Mitchell Johnson, 13, and Golden, 11... if convicted of killing five and injuring 10, they are likely be out of prison at age 18.
ReplyDelete2.)At 14 she burned down her parents' house as retribution for alleged sexual abuse by "family members since the age of four."
Those stood out to me because I cannot even begin to imagine that happening. Especially by kids my age.
3.)Of those states, 17 make parents criminally liable, sometimes with the threat of hefty fines and jail time.
This stood out to me because I wondered if parent ever got put in jail for something their child did, that they couldn't prevent. It also makes me wonder if the parents of Mitchel and Andrew could have prevented what they did.
-Morrigan Turner
Three things I found interesting:
ReplyDelete1. Young boys were capable of murder.
2. They wouldn't be kept in prison past their 21st birthday. That is pretty unjust.
3. The CAP laws in some states. I think that is a good law because sometimes children don't know what they are doing. And, after it was passed, a study was taken and it showed that unintentional deaths dropped because of it.
-Marty Bushey
1.) "Their age has nothing to do with the fact that they murdered my wife and four others. Kids do things on the spur of the moment. What these boys did was not a spur of the moment thing."
ReplyDelete2.) "It's time for the adults who own the guns to act responsibly, to store them safely and to take responsibility for the guns in their possession."
3.) "I don't care how old they are; if they kill somebody, they ought to die.
I thought that this was a terrible crime, but I don't think the kid should die, but I still don't know how it feels to have such a terrible loss like this.
- Jacob Breau
1.) People wanted the boys to die because of what they have done. People believe that if you kill someone, you should be killed.
ReplyDelete2.) Mitchell Johnson and Golden... convicted of killing five and injuring 10, are likely to be out of prison at age 18.
3.) Most children are released from prison at age 18 because the state does not have the facilities to hold them any longer.
- Vincent Amoroso
1) The first thing that stood out to me was that people were sending the guardians of the killers death threats because of their children's actions. That doesn't seem right to me. If you're threatening to kill someone just because they killed someone close to you, that almost makes you just as bad as the killer. They might not know the circumstances that caused the person to kill and if they're so appalled by it then why would they encourage rape and murder in jail?
ReplyDelete2) The second thing that stood out to me was that kids usually don't spend much time in juvenile jail for their crimes, no matter how bad they are, since they can't be tried in adult court. In my opinion, if a kid murders someone or does something equally horrible to someone intentionally, they should be treated like adults and sent to normal jail. If they just go to a detention center until they're 18, chances are they won't learn much and as soon as they get out they'll just do something bad again.
3) The third thing that stood out to me was that parents can be punished so harshly for their children's crimes. It makes sense that parents should be punished for letting their children get their hands on guns, but depending on the home life situation, the child could just be revolting against the parents no matter how good of parents they are. In some cases parents should be punished, but I don't think it should apply to all crimes that children commit.
-Holly Black
1. I think that having laws that make it so if the child does something illegal then the parent can be fined or have to face jail time are very good laws. I think they are good because this would make sure that parents are extra strict because they wouldn't want to have to go to jail or pay fines for what their kids did. Also, kids who have parents that don't really care might care more than they would without the laws because they wouldn't want to get in trouble because of what their child did.
ReplyDelete2. I think that having penalties for parents of kids who get their parents firearms is also very good. It's good because it could keep some parents from owning any firearms or it could make it so the parents are a lot more strict on their rules of the firearms. Also, they might hide the firearms or not even tell the kids they have them.
3. Mitchell Wright thinks that the boys who killed his wife and four others shouldn't have it as easy as they are going to just because of their age. I agree that they should be charged as adults for murdering five people because it would teach them a better lesson than just being charge as a juvenile would be.
-Michelle Medici
1. It's so surprising/terrible to me that a kid can murder people
ReplyDelete2. It stood out to me that Maine along with other states, don't have a minimum age limit to get tried as an adult.
3. Also what stood out to me was Mitchell Wright and how his wife was killed along with four others by little boys, I can't imagine what Mitchell might be thinking/going through.
-Aimee Laplante
1)"I don't care how old they are; if they kill somebody, they ought to die. I don't care if they're five years old. The Bible says an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth. They need to change the law." I know that this is only the agony and the resentment speaking because they would probably react differently if this was the case of their own child. "An eye for an eye ends up making the whole world blind" - Ghandi, but I believe Jesus responded to the Law of Moses by saying "You have heard that it was said, 'An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.' But I say to you, Do not resist the one who is evil. But if anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." But this wasn't meant to encourage injustice or not deal with it either.
ReplyDelete2)"Their age has nothing to do with the fact that they murdered my wife and four others. Kids do things on the spur of the moment. What these boys did was not a spur of the moment thing." What did Mitchell Wright mean by "not a spur of the moment", because if they did plan it then, they should be trialed as adults. If they are old enough to plan murder, they are old enough to face the consequences.
3)"Donna Ratliff, age 14, burned down her parents' house as retribution for alleged sexual abuse by 'family members since the age of four.'" I know everybody has their own baggage but to neglect your child and let her be sexually abused by family members, to me it seems immoral. Burning the house probably seemed like a small comeuppance to her compared to what her family did to her. I'm glad that the judge recommended a juvenile facility for her, because she needs to leave those people.
4)"42 states have enacted laws making parents responsible in one form or another for their children's crimes" Yes, parents make us who we are, we learn from their mistakes and achievements, but children mature fast, and they trade their ignorance for the burden to make their own choices, and become independent as well. So I think that all child-caused crimes should be studied more closely, before deciding whether to punish the parent/guardian or the child because either the parent could use their child to make them commit crimes, since infants are usually clueless. Or a child can learn to be cunning, and s/he can scheme and accuse an adult for a crime that the adult didn't commit.
~Jackeline Zárate López
1.) The fact that a boy in sixth grade had managed to kill a person.
ReplyDelete2.) At age fourteen a teenager burned down her parants house.
3.) Even though these are boys we are talking about some people think that they should be tried as adults and even be executed.
1. Jackie Golden and Mitchell Johnson were charged for the murder of 5 and injuries of 10 people, Mitchell is 13 and Golden, 11.
ReplyDelete2. The law cannot charge the kids with adult terms because in the state of Arkansas they can't charge juveniles with an adult crime. they will most likely be out of jail by the time they're 18. Most likely their parents will be charged too.
3. "It's time for the adults who own the guns to act responsibly, to store them safely and to take responsibility for the guns in their possession."
Lydia Holmes
1. One thing that stands out to me is how it started.
ReplyDelete2. Killing five people and injuring 10.
3. What his parents might of thought
Shane
I don't think if someone kills someone they shouldn't have to die. To me they should just stay in jail for their whole life. But i don't think kids that are 11 and 13 murdering 5 and injuring 10 they should be in jail for a very long time not just until they are 18 or 21 years old. And also if a minor has a gun and injures or kills someone I wouldn't blame the parent. If the gun is locked in the safe and the kid somehow unlocks the safe its not fair to blame the parent
ReplyDeleteGriffin
1. A 11 year old an 13 year old committed murder killing five people.
ReplyDelete2. Maine has no age limit to be tried as an adult for murder.
3. These kids should be in jail for much longer than about ten years. In this case the crime does not fit the punishment.
Max Carr
1. 13 year old Mitchell Johnson and 11 year old Andrew Golden commited a crime that killed 5 people and injured 10 people. Which is something where it doesn't matter what age you are, if you kill someone you need to pay the price.
ReplyDelete2. Some states have a minimum age for children that can be tried as adults. Again, it shouldn't matter if they're 0-90! If someone INTENTIONALLY murders or injures someone then they must serve their time.
3. That the children are not going to be tried as adults. This makes me pretty unhappy, they INTENTIONALLY killed and injured people! If they don't deserve death they deserve LIFE prison!
AJ Gaudreau
I was surprised that people would call family members of the offender and threaten them and say really bad things. Another thing that surprised me was that even if you killed more than one person at the age of 11 or 13 (young age) you may only be in a jail facility till your 18th or 21st birthday. Lastly, I was surprised to find out that many states fine and sometimes send the parents to jail when their child does a crime but is to young to go to jail.
ReplyDelete--Markie Amadei
Justice Blog Response
ReplyDelete1. I hope your boy gets raped in jail and killed
2. In many states, though, age is no barrier to punishment. Twenty-seven do not have age restrictions in prosecuting juveniles as adults.
3. Their age has nothing to do with the fact that they murdered my wife and four others.
- Milos Tisma